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Jul. 3rd, 2015 07:23 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
shanonmore dump!!!! about angel and shanon, i feel like i already talked about this but very briefly...
if shanon ever got in trouble with her THING with angel shed b in troubleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, like if the both of them got caught doing their Drug Smuggling n Dealing, he would go to prison forever and she'd definitely be there longer
but after gaining her trust, he messes with her and power trips to make her THINK she's gonna get in trouble, but idt he would ACTUALLY turn her in tho cos she business, but he like plants shit on her and puts her in the hole n makes her think hes gonna but he doesn't do anything, he does that in the beginning so she know not to fuck around, like hed prolly turn her in for contraband but for s/t else n not drugs so shed still get in trouble but not AS MUCH trouble, basically just like to scare her into not fucking around its a TEST to keep her in line, like this happens way in the beginning of this shit but idk i feel like she gets too comfortable with him and every once in awhile he has to remind her its not a game and if she gets too carefree both of them are going to get in trouble and he's not saving her or going down with her if she does
ALSO lmao i think about shanon n her grandma together a lot too like IDK I FEEL LIKE.... THEY.... would start to get along ???????? like u kinda just do when u have no choice but to be around someone ALL THE TIME
and they r prolly cell mates too LMAO that's prolly the worst at first and they fight.. a lot... verbally and then escalates into physically, like it is too much for shanon to wrap her head around her grandmother being there with her, like this is probably her worst nightmare? LMAO especially being forced to SHARE EVERYTHING it probably just makes her feel like a child again, especially because her grandmother expects her to be subservient and Respectful to her, hilda doesn't really tolerate shanon running her mouth and wont hesitate to slap her
and they work in the kitchen together (but shanon secretly likes cookin wit her grandma........ she did when she was a bb)
idk despite hilda being pretty shitty towards shanon, hilda is protective over her too i mean if she wasn't she wouldn't have murdered her husband.... so like
but shes not over protective like if shanon gets into some shit cos SHE DID something dumb on her own doing then she gonna just let it happen bc she got herself into that mess but if someone fucked with her for no reason or just targeted her for abuse shed be p. pissed like she knows shanon got herself into the mess she in with angel so shes like w/e about it and isn't going to step in but i think if he got like progressively more abusive towards her shed want 2 ruin him especially when she sees shanon all doped out of her mind and he just keeps treating her like shit, she don't like seein her bb like that : (
seeing shanon all doped up it prolly hits close to home for her bc shes an addict too like, she drinks all the time to detatch from reality and not feel anything n she's been doing that for a LONG time like prolly since she was shanon's age, so she like sees herself
THO idt she ever LET her husband lay a finger on her like if he hit her shed break his fucking wrist, she don't play
but she has depression actually like, it just happens like it doesn't discriminate, like that's the thing with depression too like you don't really have to have """""gone through"""" anything always??? sometimes it just like.. happens idk thats why she started drinking, its self medication
i feel like it happened after she had her son like her depression got really bad, my friend suggested that she probably got postpartum depression and yeah i definitely think so but not only that but
like A LOT OF IT HAVING TO DO WITH HIM NOT BEING A WITCH like that sounds so shallow but it was important to her, she was young when she had him too, I KIND OF????? want her to have had more kids too like, idk maybe she kept trying to a bb n they all turned out to be non magic SONS, like thats another thing that can contribute to it too like she feels broke,n like then when she got shanon from her first son she was rly happy bc it was finally a girl n a witch lmao like all she eva wanted was a lil witch daughter!!!!!
i figured out how old she was wen she had her kids like, shanon's dad n mom were 16 when they had shanon and shes young too shes 53
but its not uncommon for ppl to have kids when theyre 18-20's so she could've had a couple kids a few yrs apart, like ok, when shanon is 18 her dad is 34... so hilda was 19 when she had him, cos i subtracted 34 from 53, so she prolly had him, then another when she was 22, and then another when she was 25 and then prolly tried ONE MORE TIME when shes 30 lmao she is persistent!!!!!!
and then what happened with her other sons is idk i feel like they became estranged from her and probably end up marrying late (like, theyre all younger than shanon's dad so some of them are still like.. in their early 30's) idk i feel like they actually became like Successful and just dissociate from her, i think she might've put the last one up for adoption cos she was too devastated to have another boy :(
they prob have different fathers too like
omg her family is so like
A MESS
like ok, her and her husband only got married so she could get citizenship bc she was born in the philippines and lived there until she was 18 and old enough to move to America on her own, and i feel like her first husband was prolly a business man in queens, ny (woodside/little manila specifically) and it was prolly an arranged thing through her mother so she got to go there and meet him and it was kind of just like that, she literally only married for citizenship and that is how she became a landlord bc he owned buildings in the area (he got $$$$$$) but like, they don't love each other n it was more of a.. business thing? they did hook up and they had her first son, but they don't Love Each other, but bc he is the reason she has citizenship she cant LEAVE HIM so they "live together married" but they kinda.. do their own things, its a rly complicated thing (like i got the inspo bc my mom's friend from austriala basically did the same thing he came down here and married a woman for citizenship but they ended up getting divorced so he lost it)
and unfortunately that kind of shit is very common thing there too like, Filipina mail order brides, its gross cos a lot of times they're underage too like that's a huge problem there, like child brides and child prostitution, BUT YEAH thats.... what hilda was basically, like she wasn't a child but i mean she basically was a mail order bride, but she was ~freshly 18 and her youth was probably even more appealing to her "husband"
whenever she gets out of prison she will prolly end up being deported bc since.... she killed her husband she lost her citizenship and u cant reapply if u have a felony, like im trying to figure out how its gonna be for her cos i know with manslaughter, its like.. when u fight someone and it escalates and u end up killing them? murder is when theres intent, like you show up at their house with a gun/knife and kill them, they were prolly already in the house fighting and she picked up a knife and stabbed him
manslaughter by definition:
"Voluntary Manslaughter
This is often called a "heat of passion" crime. Voluntary manslaughter occurs when a person:
is strongly provoked (under circumstances that could similarly provoke a reasonable person) and
kills in the heat of passion aroused by that provocation.
For “heat of passion” to exist, the person must not have had sufficient time to “cool off” from the provocation. That the killing isn’t considered first or second degree murder is a concession to human weakness. Killers who act in the heat of passion may kill intentionally, but the emotional context is a mitigating factor that reduces their moral blameworthiness.
The classic example of voluntary manslaughter involves a husband who comes home unexpectedly to find his wife committing adultery. If the sight of the affair provokes the husband into such a heat of passion that he kills the paramour right then and there, a judge or jury might very well consider the killing to be voluntary manslaughter."
i feel like it was def "heat of passion" cos i mean he literally admitted to molesting shanon and it made her go OFF, like, the killing has to be premeditated for it to be murder, like they have to go after the person with intention to kill them, which she did not, she had no idea that what he did was true and having her suspicion confirmed is what triggered her to break
and like theres all kinds of things that can like.. contribute to the scentencing and prison time, so i think the longest she will get is 15 tbh, especially considering her mental state and the circumstance like, she clearly was unwell, like they put her in a psych unit before putting her in prison bc she kind of shut down into a fugue state after she did it, like 20 is the most, and she isn't violent usually? like she does get her violent angry outbursts but that like.. runs in their family lmao, but shes p. harmless regardless other than her..... cursing people with black magic LMAO, but killing people isn't typically on her agenda
she does beat shanon too but not the the extent of like SEVERELY inuring her like she wouldn't do that, she just slaps her around a little for ha mouth
idk tho i dont think she will be too upset about going back to the philippines, though... like, there really isn't anything there for her in america, her sons are all estranged from her and i don't know how much shanon is going to actually come around to her, and the circumstances in which she CAME to the country were a giant mess to begin with, so i think she would just like the opportunity to live her life how she wants
if shanon ever got in trouble with her THING with angel shed b in troubleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, like if the both of them got caught doing their Drug Smuggling n Dealing, he would go to prison forever and she'd definitely be there longer
but after gaining her trust, he messes with her and power trips to make her THINK she's gonna get in trouble, but idt he would ACTUALLY turn her in tho cos she business, but he like plants shit on her and puts her in the hole n makes her think hes gonna but he doesn't do anything, he does that in the beginning so she know not to fuck around, like hed prolly turn her in for contraband but for s/t else n not drugs so shed still get in trouble but not AS MUCH trouble, basically just like to scare her into not fucking around its a TEST to keep her in line, like this happens way in the beginning of this shit but idk i feel like she gets too comfortable with him and every once in awhile he has to remind her its not a game and if she gets too carefree both of them are going to get in trouble and he's not saving her or going down with her if she does
ALSO lmao i think about shanon n her grandma together a lot too like IDK I FEEL LIKE.... THEY.... would start to get along ???????? like u kinda just do when u have no choice but to be around someone ALL THE TIME
and they r prolly cell mates too LMAO that's prolly the worst at first and they fight.. a lot... verbally and then escalates into physically, like it is too much for shanon to wrap her head around her grandmother being there with her, like this is probably her worst nightmare? LMAO especially being forced to SHARE EVERYTHING it probably just makes her feel like a child again, especially because her grandmother expects her to be subservient and Respectful to her, hilda doesn't really tolerate shanon running her mouth and wont hesitate to slap her
and they work in the kitchen together (but shanon secretly likes cookin wit her grandma........ she did when she was a bb)
idk despite hilda being pretty shitty towards shanon, hilda is protective over her too i mean if she wasn't she wouldn't have murdered her husband.... so like
but shes not over protective like if shanon gets into some shit cos SHE DID something dumb on her own doing then she gonna just let it happen bc she got herself into that mess but if someone fucked with her for no reason or just targeted her for abuse shed be p. pissed like she knows shanon got herself into the mess she in with angel so shes like w/e about it and isn't going to step in but i think if he got like progressively more abusive towards her shed want 2 ruin him especially when she sees shanon all doped out of her mind and he just keeps treating her like shit, she don't like seein her bb like that : (
seeing shanon all doped up it prolly hits close to home for her bc shes an addict too like, she drinks all the time to detatch from reality and not feel anything n she's been doing that for a LONG time like prolly since she was shanon's age, so she like sees herself
THO idt she ever LET her husband lay a finger on her like if he hit her shed break his fucking wrist, she don't play
but she has depression actually like, it just happens like it doesn't discriminate, like that's the thing with depression too like you don't really have to have """""gone through"""" anything always??? sometimes it just like.. happens idk thats why she started drinking, its self medication
i feel like it happened after she had her son like her depression got really bad, my friend suggested that she probably got postpartum depression and yeah i definitely think so but not only that but
like A LOT OF IT HAVING TO DO WITH HIM NOT BEING A WITCH like that sounds so shallow but it was important to her, she was young when she had him too, I KIND OF????? want her to have had more kids too like, idk maybe she kept trying to a bb n they all turned out to be non magic SONS, like thats another thing that can contribute to it too like she feels broke,n like then when she got shanon from her first son she was rly happy bc it was finally a girl n a witch lmao like all she eva wanted was a lil witch daughter!!!!!
i figured out how old she was wen she had her kids like, shanon's dad n mom were 16 when they had shanon and shes young too shes 53
but its not uncommon for ppl to have kids when theyre 18-20's so she could've had a couple kids a few yrs apart, like ok, when shanon is 18 her dad is 34... so hilda was 19 when she had him, cos i subtracted 34 from 53, so she prolly had him, then another when she was 22, and then another when she was 25 and then prolly tried ONE MORE TIME when shes 30 lmao she is persistent!!!!!!
and then what happened with her other sons is idk i feel like they became estranged from her and probably end up marrying late (like, theyre all younger than shanon's dad so some of them are still like.. in their early 30's) idk i feel like they actually became like Successful and just dissociate from her, i think she might've put the last one up for adoption cos she was too devastated to have another boy :(
they prob have different fathers too like
omg her family is so like
A MESS
like ok, her and her husband only got married so she could get citizenship bc she was born in the philippines and lived there until she was 18 and old enough to move to America on her own, and i feel like her first husband was prolly a business man in queens, ny (woodside/little manila specifically) and it was prolly an arranged thing through her mother so she got to go there and meet him and it was kind of just like that, she literally only married for citizenship and that is how she became a landlord bc he owned buildings in the area (he got $$$$$$) but like, they don't love each other n it was more of a.. business thing? they did hook up and they had her first son, but they don't Love Each other, but bc he is the reason she has citizenship she cant LEAVE HIM so they "live together married" but they kinda.. do their own things, its a rly complicated thing (like i got the inspo bc my mom's friend from austriala basically did the same thing he came down here and married a woman for citizenship but they ended up getting divorced so he lost it)
and unfortunately that kind of shit is very common thing there too like, Filipina mail order brides, its gross cos a lot of times they're underage too like that's a huge problem there, like child brides and child prostitution, BUT YEAH thats.... what hilda was basically, like she wasn't a child but i mean she basically was a mail order bride, but she was ~freshly 18 and her youth was probably even more appealing to her "husband"
whenever she gets out of prison she will prolly end up being deported bc since.... she killed her husband she lost her citizenship and u cant reapply if u have a felony, like im trying to figure out how its gonna be for her cos i know with manslaughter, its like.. when u fight someone and it escalates and u end up killing them? murder is when theres intent, like you show up at their house with a gun/knife and kill them, they were prolly already in the house fighting and she picked up a knife and stabbed him
manslaughter by definition:
"Voluntary Manslaughter
This is often called a "heat of passion" crime. Voluntary manslaughter occurs when a person:
is strongly provoked (under circumstances that could similarly provoke a reasonable person) and
kills in the heat of passion aroused by that provocation.
For “heat of passion” to exist, the person must not have had sufficient time to “cool off” from the provocation. That the killing isn’t considered first or second degree murder is a concession to human weakness. Killers who act in the heat of passion may kill intentionally, but the emotional context is a mitigating factor that reduces their moral blameworthiness.
The classic example of voluntary manslaughter involves a husband who comes home unexpectedly to find his wife committing adultery. If the sight of the affair provokes the husband into such a heat of passion that he kills the paramour right then and there, a judge or jury might very well consider the killing to be voluntary manslaughter."
i feel like it was def "heat of passion" cos i mean he literally admitted to molesting shanon and it made her go OFF, like, the killing has to be premeditated for it to be murder, like they have to go after the person with intention to kill them, which she did not, she had no idea that what he did was true and having her suspicion confirmed is what triggered her to break
and like theres all kinds of things that can like.. contribute to the scentencing and prison time, so i think the longest she will get is 15 tbh, especially considering her mental state and the circumstance like, she clearly was unwell, like they put her in a psych unit before putting her in prison bc she kind of shut down into a fugue state after she did it, like 20 is the most, and she isn't violent usually? like she does get her violent angry outbursts but that like.. runs in their family lmao, but shes p. harmless regardless other than her..... cursing people with black magic LMAO, but killing people isn't typically on her agenda
she does beat shanon too but not the the extent of like SEVERELY inuring her like she wouldn't do that, she just slaps her around a little for ha mouth
idk tho i dont think she will be too upset about going back to the philippines, though... like, there really isn't anything there for her in america, her sons are all estranged from her and i don't know how much shanon is going to actually come around to her, and the circumstances in which she CAME to the country were a giant mess to begin with, so i think she would just like the opportunity to live her life how she wants
